Perman Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) Quote North Korean leader Kim Jong Un inspected the Korean People's Army Navy’s newest corvette and watched a strategic cruise missile test from the ship, according to state media on Monday, as South Korea and the U.S. kicked off joint military drills on August 21. Quote An Amnok-class corvette of the North Korean Navy made an interesting appearance during a demonstration to the Supreme Leader of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK) Kim Jong Un, Pyongyang’s state media reported Monday without disclosing the date of his visit. North Korea Reveals A New Cruise Missile-Armed Corvette (navalnews.com) Intressant utveckling i den nordkoreanska flottan. Visserligen gammalmodig bestyckning i många stycken som sägs i artikeln, men jämfört med vad som finns idag ändå förvånansvärt modernt. Speciellt designen på fartygen som tydligt är kinesiskt inspirerad. (The North Korean Navy's latest cruise missile armed corvette featuring the most advanced weapon systems and electronic equipment available in the North Korean inventory; photo navalnews.com) (The most modern North Korean warship today, the Amnok-class “661” corvette. Photo by KCNA.) Kommentar på X (f d twitter): Quote "As a friend told me about this corvette, "One minute you are laughing, the next you are crying!"" /Per Edited August 23, 2023 by Perman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombola Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 Det jag tycker är mest intressant är valet att helt avstå landningsplats i aktern för antingen lättare helikopter eller drönare. Men det är klart, jag vet inte ens om de har nytta av helikopter i deras situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingman Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Tombola said: Det jag tycker är mest intressant är valet att helt avstå landningsplats i aktern för antingen lättare helikopter eller drönare. Men det är klart, jag vet inte ens om de har nytta av helikopter i deras situation? Nordkorea har 2 st korvetter eller lätta fregatter av Nampo-klass med helikopterdäck i aktern. De kanske nöjer sig med det? Helikoptertyp: Mil Mi-4 PL eller Mil Mi-14 PL. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nampo-class_corvette https://inf.news/en/military/7ea43b2b48b725659887d497b879dcea.html https://www.38north.org/2014/05/jbermudez051514/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perman Posted December 31, 2024 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2024 (edited) Enligt navalnews så har Nordkorea visat upp foton på en ny fregatt som kan vara bestyckad med VLS tuber för kryssningsrobotar och luftvärnsrobotar. Fartyget ser överraskande modernt ut. Förmodligen så har man fått teknisk och design hjälp från ryssarna. Quote Photos released by North Korean state media, KCTV, reveal a new frigate that may be equipped with a Vertical Launching System (VLS) for cruise missiles and/or guided surface-to-air missiles (SAM). The vessel appears to have double the displacement of previous classes, showcasing significant enhancements in size and capability. Quote A ship with such characteristics represents a significant advancement in North Korea’s naval technology, which has historically relied on an inventory of light corvettes, fast attack craft, patrol vessels and diesel-electric submarines, —many of which are outdated or equipped with legacy weapons and sensors. At present, any insights into the specific systems that will be installed on the new +3,000-ton frigate, the largest warship ever constructed in North Korea, remain speculative. Naval News will continue to monitor developments concerning the frigate’s equipment and provide updates as more information and photos become available. North Korea Unveils Advanced Frigate Design Likely Equipped with Guided Missiles The largest warship of the North Korean Navy is currently under construction at Nampo Shipyard. This vessel is expected to be equipped with Vertical Launch System (VLS) and a four-panel phased-array radar antenna. Photo by KCTV Gott Nytt År till alla! /Per Edited December 31, 2024 by Perman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perman Posted April 26 Author Report Share Posted April 26 (edited) H I Sutton har postat på bluesky om den nya nordkoreanska fregatten som nu sjösatts: Quote H I Sutton @covertshores.bsky.social · 8h ***UPDATE*** North Korea’s new frigate launched. Not clear weather this is the one previously shown being launched. Note position of radar. Large VLS where hangar should be might be ballistic missiles Första större nordkoreanska örlogsfartyget med riktigt moderna linjer enligt min mening. 76 mm kanonen ser nästan ut som Leonardo's Super Rapido med stealth kupol, men är troligen av kinesisk design. Två olika storlekar på robotluckorna på VLS lavettaget på fördäck. Osannolikt med hangar pga. robotsilona. Förmodligen byggd med rysk och kinesisk hjälp. /Per Edited April 26 by Perman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peo Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 Gissningsvis ryska sensorer iom allt stöd från Nordkorea till Ryssland (och marina sensorer torde vara relativt lågt eftertraktade i kriget mot ukraina) Är ju lite udda med ballistiska robotar på ett ytstridsfartyg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perman Posted April 26 Author Report Share Posted April 26 5 minutes ago, Peo said: Är ju lite udda med ballistiska robotar på ett ytstridsfartyg. Ja verkligen udda men inte helt utan motstycke: Italian cruiser Giuseppe Garibaldi (1936) - as a guided missile cruiser The Polaris missile tubes of the Italian cruiser Giuseppe Garibaldi (C551), Europe's first guided missile cruiser (1961) /Per Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingman Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 1 hour ago, Perman said: H I Sutton har postat på bluesky om den nya nordkoreanska fregatten som nu sjösatts: Den tidigare bilden på fartyget från nyår borde väl vara äldre än från nyår? Att få dit all utrustning borde väl tagit en hel del tid? Vad kan "lådan" med 45-gradig sida på mitten av fartyget vid skorstenen vara för något? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perman Posted April 26 Author Report Share Posted April 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, vikingman said: Den tidigare bilden på fartyget från nyår borde väl vara äldre än från nyår? Att få dit all utrustning borde väl tagit en hel del tid? Ja den är sannolikt betydligt äldre. Quote Vad kan "lådan" med 45-gradig sida på mitten av fartyget vid skorstenen vara för något? Undrade det också faktiskt. Verkar vara nåt enklare skydd för nånting. Kanske är inte sjörobotinstallationen helt klar. Borde vara första nordkoreanska fartyget med 30 mm CIWS av förhållandevis modern AK-630 typ. De har dock ett något begränsat eldområde (från rakt akterut till ca 45 grader snett framåt). Förmodligen är det även lv-robotar i ett av VLS lavettagen akterut. H I Sutton tror att det rör sig om ballistiska robotar av KN-23 Hwasong-11 typ. /Per Edited April 26 by Perman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perman Posted April 27 Author Report Share Posted April 27 (edited) Enligt navyrecognition så betecknas den nya nordkoreanska robotjagaren som Choe Hyon-klassen. Fartyget har ett deplacement på ca 5.000 ton och byggdes på bara 400 dagar. Huvudpjäsen som jag trodde var en 76 mm kanon visar sig vara en 127 mm pjäs. Choe Hyon-klassen är bestyckad med inte mindre än 82 VLS celler. Quote One of the ship’s most striking features is its substantial vertical launch system (VLS) capacity. Directly behind the main gun, the Choe Hyon-class is outfitted with 40 small and 12 large VLS hatches, while the stern area adds another 10 large and 20 small missile tubes. In total, the destroyer features around 82 VLS cells, a remarkable figure for a vessel of its size. These VLS systems allow the Choe Hyon-class to launch a variety of missiles, including supersonic strategic cruise missiles capable of carrying nuclear or conventional warheads, tactical ballistic missiles suited for precision strikes, as well as surface-to-air and anti-ship missiles, enabling the destroyer to engage multiple threat types across vast distances. Fartyget är även bestyckat med en rysk Pantsir-M CIWS akterut, vilket tror jag visar hur stor del som ryssarna har varit involverade i fartygets konstruktion och utrustning. Quote Air defense is another critical area where the Choe Hyon-class showcases major advancements. The ship is fitted with the Pantsir-M naval air defense system, a highly capable close-in weapon system (CIWS) combining missiles and autocannons. The Pantsir-M is armed with the naval versions of the 57E6 missiles and Hermes-K missiles, ensuring layered defense against aerial threats, including aircraft, helicopters, drones, and incoming missiles. In addition to its missile armament, Pantsir-M employs two six-barreled 30×165mm GSh-6-30K/AO-18KD rotary cannons, each capable of a staggering rate of fire and effective against targets up to 5 kilometers away. Breaking News: North Korea Strengthens Sea Power with New Nuclear-Capable Choe Hyon-Class Guided-Missile Destroyer Detail of the new North Korean Choe Hyon-class guided-missile destroyer’s rear armament, including VLS arrays and the Pantsir-M naval air defense module for layered missile protection. ((Picture source: @KPA_bot X account) Undrar om det finns någon annan marin än den nordkoreanska som gått 50- och 60-tals design och teknik till förhållandevis modern dito på bara några år? Sen tror jag naturligtvis inte att deras system är riktigt i nivå med moderna västerländska, men det måste ändå betraktas som en remarkabelt steg för ett så fattigt och outvecklat land som Nordkorea. Vad gäller större ytstridsfartyg så verkar man nu t ex ha gått om Iran som fortfarande håller på att modifiera en Vosper design från 70-talet när det gäller sina förhållandevis små fregatter. Nordkorea verkar ha fått bra betalt i form av produkter och tjänster från Ryssland i förhållande till sin relativt begränsade insats i Ukraina kriget. /Per Edited April 27 by Perman 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peo Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 Lättare att stödja Nordkorea antagligen. Kostar ändå mindre politiskt än att stödja Iran på samma sätt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perman Posted April 30 Author Report Share Posted April 30 navalnews har publicerat en update om den nya nordkoreanska robotjagaren. Nu tror man fartyget är bestyckat med både kryssningsrobotar och ballistiska robotar: Quote Update 30/04/2025: New imagery released today showed the new ship undergoing first weapons testing off Nampo on the 28th and 29th of April. The new pictures clarify several characteristics of the weapon suite onboard the vessel. The main gun is stated by DPRK state media to be a 127 mm calibre-weapon, a surprising choice by established North Korean standards. Furthermore pictures confirm the forward 32 cells contain an unspecified surface to air-missile. The stern magazine does hold two different cruise missile-types. One of which DPRK state media states to be a supersonic weapon. The other missile matches characteristics of the Hwasal-2 cruise missile. Quote The new missile destroyer is not only heavily armed for a vessel of her size. Missile armament is also notably varied. Overall Choe Hyon features at least four, but possibly five different configurations of vertical launch systems (VLS) for guided missile ordnance. The total count for all VLS-launched ordnance is 74 cells. Additionally the ship carries another eight missiles in slant launchers. Finally, eight short range SAM are part of a Pantsir M-style CIWS. The North Korean Choe Hyon-class multipurpose destroyer, in a detailed system breakdown by Dimitris Mitsopoulos for Naval News. Choe Hyon firing the 127 mm main gun. Choe Hyon launches an apparent supersonic cruise missile from the stern VLS. Launch of a SAM from the forward VLS. Kommentatorer på bluesky har kommenterat att fartyget inte är under gång. Det kan ha bogserats på plats. /Per 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perman Posted May 22 Author Report Share Posted May 22 (edited) En större incident har inträffat vid sjösättning av den andra robotjagaren av Choe Hyon-klass: Quote Alex Luck @alxluck.bsky.social The second North Korean missile destroyer under construction at the country's east coast has had a major incident, slipping of her keel blocks before launch. The yard in Chongjin features notably cruder infrastructure compared to the west coast facility in Nampo. Image via "osc_london"/Twitter. Quote KCNA statement describes botched launch. Note mention of hull ruptures. They will likely try to repair it, but worst case this could be an effective write off, depending on the scale of structural damage. Quote On April 25, 2025, the first ship was launched. During the launching of the second ship at Chongjin, a "serious accident" occured, potentially damaging the hull in the process. Kim Jong Un declared this to be a serious accident and stated that the ship must be restored by the next plenary of the Party in June. Choe Hyon-class destroyer - History /Per Edited May 22 by Perman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingman Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 (edited) Kim Jong Un rasande efter incidenten! https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/22/asia/north-korea-destroyer-accident-intl-hnk-ml Edited May 22 by vikingman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perman Posted May 24 Author Report Share Posted May 24 (edited) Quote Christopher Miller @christopherjm.ft.com 23 May New Maxar satellite imagery today of the North Korean port of Chongjin and the new destroyer that was damaged during the launching ceremony at the Hambuk Shipyard. It's seen lying on its side near the dock and is covered with blue tarps attempting to conceal the ship. UPDATE: Partially Sunk North Korean Frigate Recovery Effort Seen Underway In Satellite Image (twz.com) /Per Edited May 24 by Perman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingman Posted June 7 Report Share Posted June 7 North Korean Frigate Now Floating Upright After Partially Capsizing During Disastrous Launch The North Korean frigate that rolled over and was partially submerged during its botched launch ceremony last month is now floating on its own, a new satellite image shows. It is the latest sign of progress after a mishap that embarrassed North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un, who attended the ceremony. This roughly fits in with North Korea’s initial estimate that it would take “10-odd days to restore the warship’s side.” “Kim Jong Un’s instructions to restore” the unnamed Choi-Hyun class ship “before the end of June have been met with skepticism,” 38 North, a website devoted to the analysis of North Korea, noted on Thursday. “Commercial satellite imagery shows workers at the port in Chongjin have taken a significant step towards that goal.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingman Posted June 27 Report Share Posted June 27 How North Korea’s New Warship Exposes Fast Shipbuilding Tricks | WSJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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