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Hur svårt är det att skjuta ner Air Force One?


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Då lär valet stå mellan en special version av Boeing 747-8, Boeing 777 och Boeing 787 Dreamliner som nästa Air Force One.

Jag tror av valet av nästa Air Force One tom kan bli en speciell version som stukturellt baseras på Boeing 747-8F(Freighter)

VC-25 måste vara bland de 747or som har minst flygtid i hela världen.

 

Jag tror att det plan som ersätter VC-25:orna blir B747-8i. Detta för att jag tror att 787 är för liten samt att 777:an börjar få några år på nacken. Och ska det över huvudtaget bli en 777:a så måste det bli -300ER:an för det är den enda som kan mäta sig med den nuvarande 747:an.

 

En fråga också, hur ofta flyger båda VC-25:orna med varandra? För när de var i Köpenhamn för några år sedan så var båda med och då sades det att det var för att försvåra för eventuella angipare, stämmer detta?

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det enda jag vet helt säkert om airforce one, är att det har minst två plutoner "skyddsvakter" med sig, som markskydd och förstärkning till den lokala vaktstyrkan på plats.

hittar inget om dessa kommer från USMC eller USAF, men har för mig att de som vaktade air force one i gbg 2001 var marines.

får man gissa så fanns det väl en del svenska militära enheter, i närheten av landvetter de dagarna också.

 

Satt och googlade och undrade precis över om Air Force One någonsin har landat och vart i Sverige men tydligen då.

Skulle vart kul att se hur de gick till när Air Force One var i Sverige, men tanke på alla förberedelser för Secret Service,

säkerhet vid flygplats, områden etc.. presidenten ska vistas vid. Lär va helt annat än när vår kära Reinfelt ska förflytta sig! :baskerKav:

 

Men men. får hoppas Obama har lust att droppa in hos Sverige i framtiden, den som lever får se!

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http://www.luchtzak.be/airlines/transaero/as-president-trump-wanted-a-cheaper-air-force-one-the-usaf-is-now-buying-2-undelivered-747-8s-from-bankrupt-russian-transaero/

 

As President Trump wanted a cheaper Air Force One, the USAF is now buying 2 undelivered 747-8s from bankrupt Russian airline Transaero

 

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The Air Force awarded a Boeing contract modification Aug. 4, 2017, to purchase two commercial 747-8 aircraft for future modification to replace the two aging VC-25A Boeing 747-200 presidential support aircraft. (forum discussion)

This contract modification follows a set of awards in 2016 for risk reduction activities. The Air Force has already requested Boeing to provide proposals to design, modify, test and field two Presidential mission-ready aircraft. These efforts will be awarded via future contract modifications. The program expects to begin aircraft modifications in 2019 and reach initial operational capability in 2024.

“This award is a significant step toward ensuring an overall affordable program,” said Ms. Darlene Costello, the principal deputy assistant secretary of the Air Force for acquisition. “As we move forward, we will continue to seek and implement cost savings opportunities.”

 

These aircraft will start providing worldwide presidential airlift support in 2024, after a series of modifications and tests. Boeing will modify their Federal Aviation Administration-certified commercial 747-8 aircraft to meet presidential operational requirements to help ensure an affordable program.

In March 2017, following a series of requirements reviews, the White House reaffirmed the minimum set of requirements necessary to meet presidential mission needs. The modifications to the aircraft will include incorporating a mission communications system, electrical power upgrades, a medical facility, an executive interior, a self-defense system and autonomous ground operations capabilities.

“Purchasing these aircraft is a huge step toward replacing the aging VC-25As,” said Maj. Gen. Duke Richardson, the Presidential Airlift Recapitalization program executive officer. “This award keeps us on track to modify and test the aircraft to become presidential mission-ready by 2024.”
Since the aircraft were purchased through commercial contracting procedures, price and other related details are commercial-competition sensitive, meaning the negotiated price paid is not releasable. However, the price will be part of the overall program cost baseline once set and will be released in accordance with the contract publication requirements.

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President Donald Trump said the projected cost of new Air Force One aircraft was too high, so the U.S. Air Force found a way to lower it: by buying a pair of Boeing 747 jetliners abandoned by a bankrupt Russian airline.

Air Force officials are now finalizing a contract with Boeing for the two planes, according to three defense officials with knowledge of the deal. The Pentagon could publicly announce the deal as soon as this week.

"We're working through the final stages of coordination to purchase two commercial 747-8 aircraft and expect to award a contract soon," Air Force spokeswoman Ann Stefanek said in a statement.

The Air Force is not expected to disclose the specific value of the contract, but officials said that the military is getting a good deal on the planes. Boeing lists the average sticker price of a 747-8 as $386.8 million; the actual amount paid by airlines and other customers varies with quantities, configurations, and so forth.

“We’re still working toward a deal to provide two 747-8s to the Air Force — this deal is focused on providing a great value for the Air Force and the best price for the taxpayer,” Boeing spokeswoman Caroline Hutcheson said in a statement.

The 747s that will be transformed for Presidential transport were originally ordered in 2013 by Transaero, which was Russia’s second-largest airline until it went bankrupt in 2015. Boeing built two of the four jets in the order, but the airline never took ownership of them.

Typically, an airline makes a 1 percent down payment when it orders a plane, then pays the balance in installments. Transaero did not fulfill its scheduled payments, according to an industry source.

“Aeroflot absorbed most of Transaero’s existing fleet, but declined to pick up Transaero’s 747-8I orders worth $1.5 billion at list prices,” FlightGlobal reported last month.

So Boeing flight-tested the two completed jets and put them in storage. Flight tracking data shows that the aircraft, numbered N894BA and N895BA, were last flown in February, to the Southern California Logistics Airport in Victorville, a sprawling facility in the Mojave Desert whose hot, dry air prevents corrosion. This “boneyard” is largely occupied by retired commercial jets that still bear the liveries of Delta, FedEx, British Airways, and Cathay Pacific. Other planes, unmarked, sit with their engines shrinkwrapped in anticipation of one day returning to flight.

Boeing has been paying to store the two 747s in new condition while searching for a buyer, which allowed the Air Force to negotiate a good deal for them, sources said. It’s similar to the way car dealers discount new vehicles from the previous year when new models hit the lot.

Turning a standard 747 into a flying White House requires more than a blue-and-white paint job. After the Air Force takes ownership of the planes, contractors will give them a state-of-the-art communications system, defensive countermeasures, and hardening to withstand an electromagnetic pulse caused by a nuclear explosion. New custom interiors will have conference rooms, offices and seating for White House staff, guests and journalists.

The Pentagon’s 2018 budget request, sent to Congress in February, shows that the Air Force plans to spend nearly $3.2 billion between 2018 and 2022 on two new Air Force One jets. Trump would likely fly on the new planes if he is elected to a second term.

The 747s currently flown as Air Force One are 747-200s, older models that started flying presidents in the early 1990s.

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