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Vad kostar igentligen olika soldater??

 

När jag pratar om kostnad, menar jag det sammanlagda priset för en soldats utbildning, lön, mat, utrustning... (Utrustning involverar inte pansvarvagnar etc.)

 

Det måste finnas något uppskattat pris för olika soldater?

 

Allt från kock, skyttevärnssoldat till fallskärmsjägare och dylikt..

Vad tror ni?

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Det som främst styr den kostnaden är självklart hur många soldater försvarsmakten kan leverera. Utrustning och utbildning påverkar förstås, men egentligen högst marginellt. Vi har ungefär samma totalkostnad för dagens försvarsmakt som vi hade under början av 90-talet då 800 000 man kunde mobiliseras, och allt färra soldater per krona blir det efter "den stora regementsdöden".

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Vad kostar igentligen olika soldater??

 

När jag pratar om kostnad, menar jag det sammanlagda priset för en soldats utbildning, lön, mat, utrustning... (Utrustning involverar inte pansvarvagnar etc.)

 

Det måste finnas något uppskattat pris för olika soldater?

 

Allt från kock, skyttevärnssoldat till fallskärmsjägare och dylikt..

Vad tror ni?

Har för mig befälen pratade om detta nån gång....kan en halv miljon/sold stämma på ett pskytte komp? Hmm..eller var det mer? Minst 1/2 mille iaf!

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Kostnaden för en vpl är fördelad enl följande (2003):

 

Armén: 1366kr/tjdag

Marinen: 2557kr/tjdag

Flyget: 7651kr/tjdag

 

Vilket ger en totalsumma på ca 9,4Miljarder/år för vpl-utbildningen. och totalt 4,1 Miljoner tjänstgöringsdagar.

 

1997 var kostnaderna följande:

Armén:757kr/tjdag

Marinen:831kr/tjdag

Flyget:293kr/tjdag

 

vilket gav en totalkostnad på 5,8Miljarder och totalt gjordes 8,3 Miljoner tj-dagar. Dock så har principen för att räkna ut dessa kostnader förändrats.

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Kan slänga in kostnaderna för hemvärnet på en gång:

 

Kostnad/övningsdag för hemvärnet. med dag avses 8h

 

2003: 3208kr

2002: 2856kr

2001: 2856kr

2000: 2424kr

 

Främsta kostnaderna är kostnaderna till FMLOG som gör att kostnaden per övningsdag ökar i samband med att avstånd till regmenten osv har ökat.

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Vad kostar igentligen olika soldater??

 

När jag pratar om kostnad, menar jag det sammanlagda priset för en soldats utbildning, lön, mat, utrustning... (Utrustning involverar inte pansvarvagnar etc.)

Du bør ta med tapte skatteinntekter som en følge av at vernepliktige ikke jobber også.

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Inte helt lite även om det inte är den största posten i försvarsbudgeten. Min utbildning skulle då alltså gå på i runda slängar en miljon (520 dagars tjänst men mycket ledighet) som jag tolkar det.

 

Dock finns det ju en rätt stor spännvidd på kostnader inom vapenslagen också, pansar inom armén som tidigare nämnts och t ex ubåtsvapnet inom marinen, fortfarande intressanta siffror dock. :unsure:

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Vad kostar en soldat i USAF Jag kostar 4N0X1 MEDICAL SVCS APR 27.9 $27,533 excluding air crew training

Factors are based on variable costs only and include the following:

Cost per graduate for training courses required for a specific AFSC at the basic skill level.

Acquisition costs (including the costs of recruiting, initial travel, and initial clothing issued) and the cost for basic training at the Air Force Military Training Center (enlisted only).

Pay and allowances for leave accrued during basic training and formal training.

AFSCs with no technical training requirements include only acquisition costs plus pay and allowances for leave accrued during basic training (enlisted only)

                                              (WEEKS)

1A0X1 INFLIGHT REFUELING APR 27.9 $92,495

1A1X1B FLIGHT ENGINEER APR (HELICOPTER) 17.3 $32,315

1A1X1C FLIGHT ENGINEER APR (PERFORM QUAL) 18.4 $27,225

1A2X1 AIRCRAFT LOADMASTER APR              17.4 $21,393           

1A3X1 AIRBORNE COMM SYS APR            26.7 $30,673

1A4X1 AIRBORNE WARNING CMD & CONTROL SYS APR 21.4 $26,563

1A5X1 AIRBORNE COMPUTER SYSTEMS APR 29.3 $35,046

1C0X1 AIRFIELD MGT APR 12.2 $11,844

1C0X2 OPERATIONS RESOURCE MGT APR 11.6 $11,435

1C1X1 AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL APR 22.8 $23,778

1C2X1 COMBAT CONTROL APR 71.9 $88,755

1C3X1 COMMAND & CONTROL APR 12.3 $11,611

1C4X1 TAC AIR CMD & CONTROL APR 22.1 $22,189

1C5X1 AEROSPACE CONTROL & WARNING SYS APR 11.1 $12,053

1C6X1 SPACE SYSTEMS OPERATIONS APR(ESOT) 11.7 $11,750

1N0X1 COMBAT INTELLIGENCE APPLICATIONS APR 29.1 $24,904

1N1X1 IMAGERY ANALYSIS APR 31.1 $28,218

1N2X1 SIGNALS INTELLIGENCE PRODUCTION APR 51.3 $62,135

1N3X1 GERMANIC CRYPTO LINGUIST 43.6 $38,067

1N3X2 ROMANCE CRYPTO LINGUIST 40.0 $37,163

1N3X3 SLAVIC CRYPTO LINGUIST 71.1 $61,198

1N3X4 FAR EAST CRYPTO LINGUIST 81.0 $68,587

1N3X5 MID EAST CRYPTO LINGUIST 73.7 $61,167

1N4X1 SIGNALS INTEL ANALYSIS APR 24.2 $22,349

1N5X1 ELECTRONIC SIGNALS INTEL EXPLOITATION APR 20.9 $20,032

1N6X1 ELECTRONIC SYS SECURITY ASSESSMENT APR 17.0 $15,342

1S0X1 SAFETY APPRENTICE 13.1 $16,886

1T0X1 SURVIVAL TRAINING APR 41.4 $61,717

1T1X1 AIRCREW LIFE SUPPORT APR 12.8 $12,084

1T2X1 PARARESCUE APR 103.5 $147,348

1W0X1 WEATHER APPRENTICE 24.8 $25,330

2A0X1A F15 AVIONICS TEST STA & COMP APR, F-15/F-111 33.4 $34,755

2A0X1B AVIONICS TEST STN AND CMPNT APR, F-16 31.6 $32,633

2A1X1 AVIONIC SENSORS MAINTENANCE JRNYMN 33.3 $33,785

2A1X2 AVIONICS GUID & CONT SYS APR 32.6 $30,610

2A1X3 COMM & NAV SYS APR 35.7 $33,294

2A1X4 AIRBORNE WARN & CONT RADAR APR 33.4 $31,350

2A1X7 ELEC WARFARE SYS JRNYMN 40.6 $42,617

2A3X1A AVIONICS SYS APR (ATTACK CONT)F-15(MRT) 30.2 $30,453

2A3X1B AVIONICS SYS APR (INST & FLT CONT) F-15(MRT) 18.6 $18,846

2A3X1C AVIONICS SYS APR (COMM,NAV/PEN AID) F-15 (MRT) 18.5 $19,611

2A3X2A F16 AVIONICS SYS APR (ATTACK CONTROL) 30.6 $30,429

2A3X2B F16 AVIONICS SYS APR (INST & FLT CONT) 31.8 $31,350

2A3X2C F16 AVIONICS SYS APR (COMM,NAV,PEN AIDS) 30.4 $30,053

2A3X3A TACTICAL AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE APPR (F-15) 29.5 $30,330

2A3X3B TACTICAL AIRCRAFT MAINT APR (F-16) 20.8 $21,801

2A3X3J TACTICAL AIRCRAFT MAINT APR (GENERAL) 21.1 $21,562

2A4X1 AIRCRAFT GUID & CONT APR 31.1 $27,540

2A4X2 AIRCRAFT COMM/NAV SYS APR 25.4 $23,092

2A4X3 COMMAND AND CONTROL COMM/NAV SYS APR 38.4 $39,771

2A5X1J AIRLIFT AIRCRAFT MAINT APR (C-141/C-130/C-5) 20.7 $20,880

2A5X1K AEROSPACE MAINTENANCE APR (B-1, B-52) 21.8 $21,087

2A5X1L AEROSPACE MAINT APR (C-135, E-3, KC-10) 18.2 $16,014

2A5X2 HELICOPTER MAINT APR 23.0 $23,506

2A5X3A B1,B2,B52 OFF AV SYS APR 31.4 $32,303

2A5X3B B1 AND B2 AV SYS APR (INST/FLT CONT COMPU) 30.7 $30,463

2A5X3C B1 & B2 SYS SPEC (COMM NAV & DEF AV SYS) 35.4 $34,669

2A6X1A AEROSPACE PROPULSION JRNYMN, JET ENGINES 18.1 $17,448

2A6X1B AEROSP PROPULSION JRNYMN TURBOPROP/SHAFT 20.5 $17,915

2A6X2 AEROSPACE GROUND EQUIPMENT APR 29.1 $25,950

2A6X3 AIRCREW EGRESS APR 13.8 $13,025

2A6X4 ACFT FUEL SYS APR 13.8 $12,319

2A6X5 ACFT HYDRAULICS SYS APR 16.2 $14,468

2A6X6 TAC ELEC & ENVIRON SYS APR 23.9 $21,792

2A7X1 ACFT METALS TECHNOLOGY APR 21.7 $21,679

2A7X2 NONDESTRUCTIVE INSPECTION APR 16.3 $15,820

2A7X3 AIRCRAFT STRUCTURAL MAINT APR 20.5 $17,325

2A7X4 SURVIVAL EQUIPMENT APR 18.6 $16,988

2E0X1 GROUND RADAR SYSTEMS APPR 44.9 $49,125

2E1X1 WIDEBAND COMM EQUIP APR 40.0 $37,503

2E1X2 METEOROLOGICAL & NAVIGATION SYS APR 44.7 $37,611

2E1X3 GROUND RADIO COMM APR 46.9 $47,206

2E1X4 TELE & INTRUSION DETECTION SYS APR 62.5 $58,829

2E2X1 ELECT COMPUTER & SWITCH SYS APR 30.6 $34,836

2E2X1A ELEC COMP & SWITCH SYS APR (JSS) 36.3 $45,015

2E2X1B ELECTRONIC COMPUTER/SWITCHING SYS APR 36.6 $ 30,325

2E2X1C ELEC COMP & SWITCH SYS APR 39.9 $45,675

2E2X1D ELEC COMP & SWITCH SYS (JSS) 44.3 $57,284

2E3X1 SECURE COMM SYS MAINT APR 27.1 $26,244

2E4X1 SPACE SYS APR 28.9 $28,268

2E6X1 COMM-CABLE & ANTENNA SYS APR 15.6 $15,868

2E6X2 COMM CABLE SYSTEMS APR 20.3 $20,396

2E6X3 TELEPHONE SWITCHING APR 27.4 $26,125

2E8X1 INSTRUMENTATION & TELEMETRY SYS APR 27.5 $26,917

2F0X1 FUELS JRNYMN 12.6 $12,198

2G0X1 LOGISTICS PLANS APR 11.1 $14,176

2M0X1 MISSILE & SPACE SYS ELEC MAINT APR 37.1 $36,600

2M0X2 MISSILE & SPACE SYS MAINT APR 27.6 $32,592

2M0X3 MISSILE & SPACE FACILITIES APR 33.5 $32,395

2P0X1 PRECISION MEASUREMENT EQUIP LAB APR 39.1 $41,417

2R0X1 MAINT DATA SYSTEMS  ANALYSIS APR 17.8 $15,822

2R1X1 MAINT SCHEDULING APR 12.8 $11,855

2S0X1 SUPPLY MANAGEMENT APR 14.2 $12,607

2S0X2 SUPPLY SYSTEMS ANALYSIS APPRENTICE 17.0 $17,017

2T0X1 TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT APR 19.5 $16,071

2T1X1 VEHICLE OPERATOR/DISPATCHER APR 12.3 $11,994

2T2X1 AIR TRANSPORTATION APR 12.1 $10,961

2T3X1 SPEC PURPOSE VEHICLE & EQUIP MAINT APR 23.2 $23,158

2T3X2A SPECIAL VEHICLE MAINT APR, FIRETRUCKS 24.0 $24,327

2T3X2B SPECIAL VEHICLE MAINT APR, REFUELING VEHICLE 20.9 $20,973

2T3X4 GENERAL PURPOSE VEHICLE MAINT APR 17.7 $18,775

2T3X5 VEHICLE BODY MAINT APR 19.4 $20,210

2T3X7 VEHICLE MAINT CONTROL & ANALYSIS APR 21.4 $21,515

2W0X1 MUNITIONS SYS APR (MATERIEL/PRODUCTION) 15.2 $13,606

2W1X1 AICRAFT ARMAMENT SYSTEMS APR 21.5 $18,807

2W2X1 NUCLEAR WEAPONS JRNYMN 18.3 $17,831

3A0X1 INFORMATION MANAGEMENT APPR 14.2 $12,808

3C0X1 APR COMM-COMPUTER SYSTEMS OPER 19.1 $15,841

3C0X2 COMM-COMPUTER SYSTEMS PROGRAM APPR 17.4 $ 15,891

3C1X1 RADIO COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEM APR 12.7 $11,926

3C1X2 ELECTROMAGNETIC SPECTRUM MGT APR 20.4 $26,165

3C2X1 COMM-COMPUTER SYS CONTROL APR 23.4 $21,073

3C3X1 COMM-COMPUTER SYS PLANNING & IMPLEMENT APR 11.5 $12,998

3E0X1 ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS APR 20.5 $16,512

3E0X2 ELECTRIC POWER PRODUCTION APR 14.9 $13,254

3E1X1 HEAT, VENT, AC & REFRIG APR 24.3 $29,986

3E2X1 PAVEMENTS & CONSTRUCTION EQUIP APR 20.6 $20,263

3E3X1 STRUCTURAL JRNYMN 23.8 $25,849

3E4X1 UTILITIES SYSTEMS APR 15.8 $13,680

3E4X2 LIQUID FUEL SYS MAINT APR 15.0 $13,242

3E4X3 ENVIRONMENTAL APR 12.9 $15,481

3E5X1 ENGINEERING APR 19.0 $21,424

3E6X1 FORCE MANAGEMENT APPRENTICE 11.1 $14,685

3E7X1 FIRE PROTECTION APR 20.2 $22,320

3E8X1 EXPLOSIVE ORD DISPOSAL APR 37.6 $55,880

3E9X1 READINESS 17.0 $19,954

3H0X1 HISTORIAN APPR 9.9 $11,729

3M0X1 SERVICES APR 12.6 $11,910

3N0X1 PUBLIC AFFAIRS APR 18.5 $19,930

3N0X2 RADIO/TV BROADCASTING APR 18.5 $19,930

3N1X1A REGIONAL BAND 6.3 $6,119

3N2X1 PREMIER BAND 6.3 $6,119

3P0X1 SECURITY FORCES APR 16.3 $16,137

3P0X1A SECURITY FORCES MILITARY WORKING DOG 17.4 $23,406

3P0X1B COMBAT ARMS TRAINING & MAINT APR 15.9 $22,162

3S0X1 PERSONNEL APR 12.1 $11,247

3S0X2 PERSONNEL SYSTEMS APPRENTICE 12.1 $13,157

3S1X1 EQUAL OPPORTUNITY MANAGEMENT 22.3 $10,740

3S2X1 EDUCATION AND TRAINING JRNYMN 14.3 $18,443

3U0X1 MANPOWER MANAGEMENT JOURNEYMAN 14.1 $16,803

3V0X1 VISUAL INFORMATION APR 17.7 $18,775

3V0X2 STILL PHOTO APR 25.5 $27,835

3V0X3 VISUAL INFO PROD DOC APR 22.0 $30,302

4A0X1 HEALTH SERVICES MGMT APR 12.5 $11,705

4A1X1 MEDICAL MATERIEL APR 11.3 $10,798

4A2X1 BIOMEDICAL EQUIP APR 54.0 $53,195

4B0X1 BIOENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEER APR 24.2 $31,127

4C0X1 MENTAL HEALTH SERVICE APR 19.6 $16,965

4D0X1 DIET THERAPY APR 17.7 $17,032

4E0X1 PUBLIC HEALTH APR 20.2 $25,707

4F0X1 AEROMEDICAL APR 18.8 $23,903

4H0X1 CARDIOPULMONARY LAB APR 50.0 $49,018

4J0X1 OCCUPATIONAL THERAPY APR 35.3 $44,154

4J0X2 PHYSICAL THERAPY APR 18.9 $18,198

4M0X1 AEROSPACE PHYSIOLOGY APR 14.0 $17,517

4N0X1 MEDICAL SVCS APR 27.9 $27,533

4N0X1A MEDICAL SVCS APR 24.1 $25,501

4N0X1B MEDICAL SVCS APR 46.1 $53,855

4N1X1 SURGICAL SVCS APR 20.0 $21,263

4N1X1B SURGICAL SERVICES 22.3 $31,740

4N1X1C ORTHOPEDIC SURGICAL APR 12.4 $15,751

4N1X1D SURGICAL SERVICES 26.0 $31,661

4P0X1 PHARMACY APR 22.5 $21,969

4R0X1 DIAGNOSTIC IMAGING APR 59.7 $54,751

4R0X1A NUCLEAR MEDICINE 58.3 $69,211

4R0X1B ULTRASOUND 30.7 $44,866

4T0X1 MEDICAL LAB APR 60.3 $59,871

4T0X2 HISTOPATHOLOGY APR 43.5 $44,988

4T0X3 CYTOTECHNOLOGY APR 58.3 $76,254

4U0X1 ORTHOTIC APR 56.3 $53,479

4V0X1 OPTOMETRY APR 16.8 $16,360

4V0X1A OPTHAMOLOGY APR 12.9 $16,578

4Y0X1 DENTAL ASSISTANT APR 15.1 $14,293

4Y0X2 DENTAL LAB APPRENTICE 30.7 $40,651

5J0X1 PARALEGAL APPRENTICE 12.5 $14,479

5R0X1 CHAPLAIN SERVICE SUPPORT APR 12.3 $14,709

6C0X1 CONTRACTING APR 10.3 $11,448

6F0X1 FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT APR 19.6 $16,158

6F1X1 FINANCIAL ANALYSIS APPRENTICE 14.1 $16,437

7S0X1 SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS APPRENTICE 12.0 $16,851*

8A0X0 IN-FLIGHT PASSENGER SERVICE JOURNEYMAN** 9.3 $10,154

8B0X0 MILITARY TRAINING INSTRUCTOR 21.2 $25,644

8B1X0 MILITARY TRAINING MANAGER 8.3 $9,516

8E0X0 RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT TECH** 6.3 $6,119

8F0X0 FIRST SERGEANT 10.3 $12,355

8G0X0 USAF HONOR GUARD 13.3 $12,436

8M0X0 POSTAL 18.9 $20,622

8P0X0 COURIER** 6.3 $6,119

8R0X0 RECRUITER 13.1 $16,717

8S0X0 MISSILE FACILITY MANAGER** 6.3 $6,119

8S1X0 SENSOR OPERATOR 9.3 $10,154

8T0X0 PROF MILITARY EDUCATION INSTRUCTOR 14.3 $21,064

9D0X0 DORMITORY MANAGER** 6.3 $6,119

9G0X0 AIRMAN AIDE** 6.3 $6,119

9L0X0 INTERPRETER/TRANSLATOR** 6.3 $6,119

9S1X0 SCIENTIFIC MEASUREMENTS TECH 29.5 $32,150

9S2X0 APPLIED SCIENCES TECH 39.1 $47,904

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Kostnaden för en vpl är fördelad enl följande (2003):

 

Armén: 1366kr/tjdag

Marinen: 2557kr/tjdag

Flyget: 7651kr/tjdag

 

Vilket ger en totalsumma på ca 9,4Miljarder/år för vpl-utbildningen. och totalt 4,1 Miljoner tjänstgöringsdagar.

 

1997 var kostnaderna följande:

Armén:757kr/tjdag

Marinen:831kr/tjdag

Flyget:293kr/tjdag

 

vilket gav en totalkostnad på 5,8Miljarder och totalt gjordes 8,3 Miljoner tj-dagar. Dock så har principen för att räkna ut dessa kostnader förändrats.

Varför är flygets gossar så mycket dyrare, räknar man in ett helt flygplan per mekaniker?

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@undass

 

Kan bero på hur det räknas... För inte allt för länge sedan var de billigast, nu är de dyrast. De räknar in allt vad vpl-utb kostar totalt för att sedan dividera detta med antalet tj-dagar. vilket ger en kostnad för varje vpl. Tyvärr så är det en hel del internfaktureringar som döljs i dessa siffror, vilket gör att den faktiska kostnaden kan vara ngt helt annat. Bl.a. så räknas instruktörernas löner in bland dessa kostnader så hur ser antalet utbildandepersonal/vpl ut inom flygvapnet jmf med armén?

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Jag ska inte säga att detta är 100% siffror, men jag har för mig att en vpl kostar ca 220Kr per dag, deta är bara dagpeng , matkostnad mm och inte utbildningskostnaden körmil, vapen mm. Detta lärde jag mig när "äldre och visare befäl" hävdade att "det var ju bara att kalla in mer soldater det är ju gratis"

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